Setting up Your Home Charging Point

I heard the same too , did you check by connecting to your home UPS/inverter (testing only)to verify as its just a 48 volts AC to DC battery charger that would be connected to the ather scooter .

No haven’t tried that I am yet to receive my Ather 450.

Ather 450 charges with AC input at Home Charging point.

it charges with Ac at home which feeds a ac to dc converter on board on a Ather to charge a 48 volts battery bank … Wanted to know if any one has charged it via a inverter as i have configures to charge via ups which is fed from solar.

Ather can be charged by both AC as well DC. Fast Grid chargers use DC charging at public places. However Home Charging uses AC.

If we are to charge by DC at home, then connection needs to be different at nozzle as DC input is taken in different pins. Then we need to bypass today’s Home Charging Electrical Box (as it is AC only) and connect directly to the pins. Again, current has to be regulated.

Second point is that today’s DC charging is high current application for fast charging, Ather do not advice its consumers to charge on daily basis as life of battery may diminish.

Technically I agree that slow DC charging is also possible. Then Ather needs to write another algorithm for slow DC charging for home. As of now I doubt that is in place.

Now, if you are charging with AC at home with your inverter (solar), yes it is possible and it works as long as it is able to supply enough power.

Only way I guess to test is to connect when I get the scooter and connect it at home.

If any Ather scooter owner has any electricity Usage Monitor meter like one below

Can they connect it to find out the wattage it takes to charge the scooter and share the results. @raghav.srinivasan as it looks like you are grid independent any input would be appreciated.

It takes around 1KW power on average. If you have an inverter of around 1.5KW then it may suffice.

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Oh no. I am far from being grid independent. @capshankar though will be able to tell you more as he has far more experience with EV’s and Grid Independent power systems than I do.

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I have one of those Mi WiFi plugs that monitor wattage. I have to jerry rig that to the charging circuit when I get time. The Mi Home app gives me wattage and consumption data.

I have a 1 KV UPS from APC(https://www.amazon.in/APC-SUA1000UXI-1000va-800w-Smart/dp/B00B71S6Q6) on which my entire house runs including a 500lts fridge and Im using a 2 kwatt solar panel connected to charge my batteries via a charge controller to charger the 150x2 C10 rated batteries, hence was checking if someone has tested with inverter/ups .

That would be very helpful @raghav.srinivasan if you can get some realtime wattage reading when connected to charge the ather scooter as I have got wiring done wired to connect the ather charger to charge via the UPS .

Hi Everyone,

I have query on home charging point installation.
I stay in older independent house. I am not sure earthing is available or not. While installing charging point. Will the installation team will perform basic checkout to ensure is fine.

Thank You

don’t worry they will do all checks and install the pod securely

u don’t have to doubt/worry on that part

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Thanks @Abhishek
As I told, I leave in 30+ years older home where earthing is not done.
Today Ather charging point installation team came and examine earthing point and confirmed without earthing charging point would not glow green and started with installation.
Now I need to work with Ather team again for 2 days to make earthing point installation and configuring created earthing wire to charging point to make it green.

I really need to appreciate Shivu who made me under the issue and provided resolution steps before he started with installation and done a great job.

Let me work offline with Ather team offline to resolve my charging point issue.

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Day 2 : Earthing installation activity from Ather and their vendor team.

[This message is for those who not aware of earthing activity process, For people who’s charging point gave surprise of no earthing connections ]

I have scheduled appointment on 1st June 2019 at 13:00. Mr. Lokesh from Ather team was on time to my location but he needs wait for vendors to reach my place took 2.5 hours and we finally started with earthing work around 15:45.

Pre - Requites equipment for earthing : slight_smile:

  1. Earth Hole digging bar.

  1. Earthing Electrodes [Rod].

Earthing%20rod

  1. Ground Enhancing compound [Chemical].

  1. Earthing Copper wire [ Ather Non - Standard wire. I purchased personally ] and Electrical Wire.

Installation steps :

A) Started with Earth Hole digging bar to dig the earth hole. We need to do in 3 places as
1st hole failed due to interior sanitary pipe connection pipe found and 2nd failed to due
to rock came up in middle and not able to proceed further and dig 3rd hole which was
successful without issues.

   To reduce effort of employee and time who was using manual bar for his work. We 
   provided machinery equipment to take care of activity.  [ Since my father works in 
   construction field so we were having machinery equipment called [Demolition 
    Machine ]   

B) After digging the earth hole, exactly in middle inserted with Earthing Electrodes [Rod]
and remaining places of completely filled with 25 kg of Ground Enhancing compound
[Chemical] and used water to set and waited until it get dry.

C) Previous places which was digged was closed by vendor and all set his job completed
and got ready to leave the place. Next works [Electrical works ] needs to be taken
Lokesh [Ather]

I) He connected copper wire [Which we took 200 meters] from earthing installation place
line to the wall.

II) He extended connection from copper wire to normal electrical wire till the electrical point and gave connection to the main point where home charging point is installed.

III) Lokesh ensure electrical wire are properly placed in wall and test the connection immediately turned on MCB, The hidden surprise was home charging point started flowing from RED to GREEN

Real happiness is making the things to happen and my sincere thanks to Lokesh in this picture. He was very polite, smiley face and patience he did 2nd day Ather work very Awesome !!!

Now, I need to schedule 3rd day appointment with Ather, To close earthing pole with cement and need to make external electrical cover with fiber as wire to directly placed on the wall.

I will take care with ather team on offline.

Regards,
Santosh Kumar L

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nice

Lokesh installed my charging pod as well

very swift and he checks the work both before and after and make sure u are happy before he leaves the place

(i remember - generally i dont bother to check the anatomy of the work - if the line appears straight or bent etc… but this guy is serious he just goes back and checks the detail in corrects them every step)

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What is the standard height of installation of the charger from Floor level.

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I have made the full payment on 28th May but till now I have not got any call from ather team for charger installation.

surprising

did u try contacting them (they must be busy organizing yesterdays event)

please contact or drop a mail at info@atherenergy.com

Yes I have contacted them today and even mailed them they replied me as “Concerned team will get in touch with you”. But till now no call from installation team.