Smart Charging

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Please anyone can suggest to maximize increase life of battery as I charge on alternate days and I charge. From normally 20. Or Mac from 30 to 82-84 percent and this all range works for me normally 2 days as I have daily run about 30-35 kms and if I charge 100 percent than it works for me for 3-4 days so how should I charge as in 100 percent method the charging cycles will be less but in 80 percent charging cycles will be more so which is preferable or any other method to increase battery life and I put charging after 30-40 mins rest after ride ??

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I tried all these.

Given that there is NO in-built way to maintain the charging threshold, the effort required made me loose interest. Now, I charge it to 100% often.

In the long run, I believe this had very negligible differences. Because, after 3 years, I am pretty sure of my Gen-1 battery health above 90%.

Frequent Fast charging and number of cycles may hurt more than charging it full.

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I don’t charge fast bro very rare in case of emergency even I am a host of Ather grid :joy:

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20-80 is good or 20-100

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20-80 is the better way as suggested by many

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Thanks :+1:t2:

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Not true. Common misconception. Charging cycles remain the same either way. 5 * (20-80) cycles and 3 * (0-100) cycles are both equal to 3 charge cycles. But keeping your battery away from 100% and 0% is the best thing you can do for your battery. I had all these thoughts in the first 1-2 years of ownership and like everyone else including @prasathvishnu

I charge it to 100% everyday too.
Take a look at the initial post on this thread . It might help you out and help you charge to only 84% with lesser effort.

Are you noticing that your battery is beginning to charge a bit faster than when we got the scooter ? Recently I put it to charge and it was up to 50% from 10% in about 50mins

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So overall there will be no impact on battery if I charge my scooter to 100 percent everytime from 20 percent in 2-3 days gap :+1:t2:

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So, from what I’ve heard from people at Ather. Because of how the BMS is designed especially with the Buffer- more than degradation by charging cycles the degradation is mostly Agee related. So a 3 year old Ather which has done 50,000Km and a 3 yr old Ather which has done 20,000Km will more or less be about the same.
I’d say don’t really worry about it. Just use it like you would any other scooter. Trust the product. Trust Ather’s BMS and enjoy it. The more you worry about degradation the less youll enjoy your scooter :sweat_smile:
Ather designed the scooter to not be a hassle to use. And to charge it overnight everyday. My goal initially was to extend the life of the battery but since it’s my first ev I decided to just let go and just charge to 100% everyday just to test it and see how much it degrades.

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Hello. Read almost all posts above. I’m a new Ather owner. One question I have is about the charging habits. Few of them have mentioned 50-100, 60-100, and someone has mentioned 20-100. It’s confusing. Which one is the best??

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Don’t worry about it. Just leave it plugged in overnight irrespective of the charge state. :blush:… The BMS will take care of the battery. Besides, 20 to 80% charging habit is good if you want to follow it.

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https://forum.atherenergy.com/t/charging-habits/17687/39?u=saadshaikh747

Check this out :point_up:t2:

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If you’re usage is over 30-40Km a day charge to 100% overnight irrespective of your SOC. If you’re usage is under 30-40Km put it to overnight charging and set up an automation on your smart plug. As mentioned in the first post of this thread. It’s works relatively fine on the Wipro app and smart plug. My mother uses the scooter now everyday for 20-30Km/day and so she plugs it at night. I’ve set a charge start at 4AM and an automation that stops charging when power delivered is <800W so she wakes up usually to a SOC of ~ 86-88% everyday. It makes perfect sense for her usage.

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Hi which Wipro smart plug do you use? The model and rating

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@Suraj_madhu got it thanks

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Save ₹200 and go for the Wipro 10A socket instead.

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An update on gen3 smart charging

This setup stops at around 80-81% (ignore the smart bulb , just added it for fun, changes colour when reaches 80% charge :stuck_out_tongue:)

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Who knows if they are listening to these feedbacks or not… well I don’t think so @abhishek.balaji

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Most part of the revenue of an company comes from after sales service. No company would want that their product runs maintenance free or the customers do not need to purchase new parts after warranty period. Same is the case with battery, if you will ride Ather upto or more than 10 years, then what the company will do? You got my point :sweat_smile:

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