The ARAI figures are based on the test tracks not based on actual road conditions and traffic conditions. They test the vehicle with standards like a fixed weight fixed speed and with that how much distance it travels until coming from 100 to 0% of charge. Which is realistic only in ideal conditions. And we all know there will not be ideal conditions in real world.
Many manufacturers give the same numbers as in ARAI reports that was the reason the actual range will be lesser than said range where in ATHER is reporting the range as per the actual on road conditions which they have tested and the figures are arrived based on lot of data collected from vehicle as it has IoT features.
That is the reason many of us get more range than what they claim. The EV range mainly depends in how we ride and other physical conditions hence every one will have different numbers.
I am sorry to say, but the answer is not satisfactory.
why 27% of the range? how would you justify? Also if ARAI clearsn 116 Kms/charge, then why range is not shown on full charge as 116 Kms on dashboard?
Actually, I’m a bit confused with your recommendation. Would you rather your Ather show a false 116 km range at 100% SoC and then rapidly drop kms falsely relative to your actual travel kms?
Also, the 27% difference is a question for ARAI, and not Ather, right? Because it is ARAI that is promising false range and Ather is instead opting to show the actual range instead of inflating it like many other EVs do.
What I am saying is that if the ARAI clears 116 Kms/Charge, then it is based on the Ather 450X as a product. so if it gives 116Kms in a single charge then why is it not showing 116Kms on dashboard.
The question of showing 116 Kms is very much for Ather only because that figure has come from the capability of the product only. so why not show 116 on dashboard?
27% difference is very much for Ather 450X. Normally, always there is a difference in ARAI and practical milege. But it is never 27% in any of the vehicle. why so much difference is something Ather should share so that who knows with their tips and tricks, people may be benefited and get better than 85.
Also one more thing is noticed that Ather’s max speed is locked at 85-88 but they claim that it can go upto 90-95 or little more. On what basis it is said. Someone from Ather should explain that.
I hope everyone remembers VW had done some sort of manipulation and eventually, it had end up paying heavy penallty. I am not sure if Ather is doing some kind of manipulation via app used in scooter.
Someone from Ather team should come forward and explain why is that so???
Are you sure about this? I have seen almost all reviews online crossing 88 km…
Interesting you should point this out. Apparently, the ideal versus real range conversation factor is 0.7, which means 27% is more or less in line with the ARAI ideal condition range, I guess?
On a related note, the range difference has been seen to vary up to almost 37% apparently, FWIW.
Of course, I’m no expert, so let me know if I am interpreting the stats wrongly…
Simply because it is not the real world range. If Ather shows 116kms on the dashboard and I actually can travel 75kms, I’d be really annoyed and more scooters will be stranded on the road without charge.
Range anxiety will kill me if that happens…I’d like to give you the example of my own E2Oplus experience. It displays 110kms on the cluster but at best I can drive 75kms under normal conditions. Only Hypermiling will yield 110kms.
The ARAI test is just for a duration of around 20 minutes and 10km. The simulated conditions on the dynamometer will be at an average speed of around 30Km/h. The speeds do not exceed 90 km/h with acceleration and deceleration happening gradually. The vehicle is horizontal all the times.
One other important thing we have to understand is that the primary objective of ARAI’s IDC test is to measure the emission levels of the vehicle and ensure that all the vehicles conform to the emission standards of our country. The fuel efficiency is kind of a by product. Fuel economy is calculated using an empirical formula. Since there is no tailpipe emissions for Ather, Range becomes a main measurement parameter.
It is not the best way actually to arrive at an economy/range figure based such a test, but the reason why it’s done is actually to compare how different vehicles vary w.r.t each other. The figures from the test do not signify the actual fuel efficiency of a vehicle in real-time conditions.
Please read about VW topic…it’s a totally different topic. You just can’t compare the two.
Ather has never claimed 95kmph. It cuts off at at a displayed speed of 90kmph and I have reached a displayed speed of 91kmph in a downward gradient many times. In fact Ather has always claimed 80kmph as it’s top speed. See the screenshot from the website.
Yes it is a confusing mixup. In PC lingo, hard reset is like you force it the hard way (Ctrl alt del or reset button) and soft like in the smooth way (normal menu shutdown command).
