DiY mount for Portable Charger

Ather officially confirmed that due to cost cutting they are using this low quality plug

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Anyway, prcd was a waste of money, I mean it was useful in gen 1 scooters, but with DOT and APC in the DC converter takes most of the safety functions, except for Surge protection but even PRCD cannot protect against that. It’s better to have a proper RCCB installed in the Main box to take care of the protection, for devices.

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Get it changed bro.

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Metal Version of the Ather Wall Mount

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Metal Version of the Ather Wall Mount on Amazon

I got the Gen 3 yesterday in Mumbai and I too got the same plug as @paulvarghesep97. On inquiring, the executive mentioned that they used to receive a lot of complaints about the plug. I suspect if that’s true but yeah, a proper confirmation and a reason from Ather would be nice.

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But why would they remove the PRCD? It was a very important component to safeguard against the battery. Should we use a RCCB now? Why is safety comprised for the cost of 19k?

PRCD is a portable RCD.

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Why some DOT chargers are still sold with PRCD and some not? If they had some issue with it than i think Ather should mention it officially. if its a cost cutting plan than i think for charger worth 19K there should be some alternate safety device provided along with it.

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I think @power_light2000 would be better placed to comment on this since I frankly am no expert at this, but if you scroll up, you’ll read that the PRCD possibly is not a critical component for safety, and an RCCB has always been a better alternative:

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there are no AC lines passing to the scooter, what charges your scooter is DC power, a prcd device cannot detect ac pass-through after conversion, this will be the prime reason for what I said here

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Can’t get this correctly…A PRCD is something which lets in the AC current and then it passes through the rectifier which rectifies the current and then it is passed through the scooter…This is the mechanism right?..

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In layman’s terms yes, ac in to prcd then out to dot/apc which does the all of the work of rectification and sends proper current to Ather. Here is the part i say is useless if used a prcd. The board will most of the time have a MOV and other critical component which filters line input and sends ac current to bridge rectifier so here stops the work of ac input.

A prcd is a current protection if anyone ever comes inbetween this section from ac to dot or apc he would be protected which is highly unlikely. Prcd are usually good for using it a devices like water gysers or hotpots, electric stove where the chances of human interaction is highly likely in-between ac current or leakage of current and prcd can save a life.

But here in DOT or apc there is no interaction of ac line.

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Ohh!!Fine…Understood :+1:

The reason they mite have used a PRCD is the DOT charger uses a Metal frame at the back/inside and the AC input cable is attached to it. Just in case if there are any cracks or loose connection in the wire it mite help.

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Any kind of loose connection cannot be sensed in prcd, even if shorts for a sec, the mcb will trip rather than prcd. I hope this puts the topic to the end.

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A leakage of current/loose connections & flows through the metal plate at the back and a human contact which is grounded it should work. Same what you mentioned for other appliances. Here the PRCD is used as a Safety device for Human, not the charger.

Just because you asked here is a topic where I have replaced the factory AC input wire to after-market,

https://forum.atherenergy.com/t/poor-quality-of-portable-charger-ac-wire-used/25026/11?u=power_light2000

not possible, it’s because of the spade connector, it fits extremely tight. it’s insulated.

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the yellow ceramic cap will be usually a MOV(Metal Oxide Varistor)

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it goes through a gland like this where individual wires are separated in the holes and then placed in epoxy to hold them together and the metal part of the body is grounded.

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if there is a stray current, usually, MOV will take care of it by sending it to ground. and if there is a loose connection and it touches the plate the PRCD and MCB will trip, and if there is no PRCD then MCB will definitely trip.

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Maybe a lame question, in a scenario of varying fluctuating power, is it anywhere suggested to use a stabilizer for a portable charger?

No, don’t use a power stabilizer for resistive load. Stabilizer are meant for inductive loads like motors and suddenly high pull current loads. If your area experience a lot of voltage fluctuations use Stabilizer that is made for inverter load. This is also not recommended but will have to do. As i said in previous post most line filtering is done in the APC so there is nothing to worry- backed by 3 year warranty which they might deny.

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I am not able to find a box with these dimensions (so that I can fit my portable charger easily) in my area (Mumbai). Can someone please help me with the dimensions of this box or a link to purchase this?