450X: Product/Technical discussions

hi does the Ather 450 and the 450x have the same boot space size.?

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Correct. All 450 models have the same boot space.

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Hi! I’m observing a continuous beep when I ride above 32-35. I raised it with the service personnel at my city’s EC and they say it’s normal. They also rode it and checked and seemed satisfied, though it was only riding it in the parking lot of the EC. I’m unsure about this. Is it normal? What sound could it be if it’s normal? It’s a pretty evident and continuous beep.

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@tanishqkhare - which mode do you get this beep sound?

AFAIK, none of the recent updates have a speed alert function (like in some cars) and this was never a requested or in pipeline feature.

Did someone wire your speedo to the horn by mistake ? :sweat_smile:

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I’m getting this on eco. Haven’t tried it on other modes. Speed alert :sweat_smile:. It’s not a very loud beep but certainly audible while riding.

Is Ather working to increase the range of scooter?

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You & me have to work to get increased range for our scooters. :wink:

Joke aside, increased range will be the next target as Ola S1 has already set a good benchmark for range.

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had a doubt, is the hard reset and the shutdown button in the settings of the dashboard the same? or do they serve different purposes. And also

In the Ather s340 they had the same thing which Ola implemented in their scooter ( personalised riding modes for each different user and how did this not continue?

And also that light sensing headlight where did that go?

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Nobody is talking about the range of scooter! Ather is only thinking about. Other companies they have done. I don’t know why Ather is not thinking about range and speed before it’s too late. It’s time to think and wake up

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Possibly cos people might be okay with 85-100km range, like sufficient for their day-to-day ride? Im speaking from my own experience, and maybe others might feel the same. I personally wouldn’t wanna ride over 100km at a stretch, seems tiring on a scooter. Specially from a city like Mumbai, riding 20km took me3 hours, so probably not the best idea to do 100 km :rofl:

Only on paper, companies have claimed to have more range. However, will be interesting to see what the real world range looks like. Gotta wait till its proven.

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Increased range helps in 3 ways.

  1. You can charge less frequently
  2. You can continue to use the vehicle without battery replacement for longer time
  3. You can go for occasional long rides.

Benefits of #1 and #2 is applicable for all. But, if the battery cost is expected to go down in future, increasing range too much is counter effective from cost side. So, 120-150 km range is a balanced range.

#3 - Around 10% people may go for 50-75 km ride occasionally. They will be happy with 150 km range.

Anything more than 150 km range will be helpful to <1% of the people. Because benefits are far less for the cost and weight incurred, not worth.

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Every one does not live in Mumbai. If you charge the battery every day, soon battery will become week and soon the day will come when you have to change the battery.

That’s why good range is important for us.

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hey @abhishek.balaji my Ather 450X has stopped displaying music and incoming calls; but connects to bluetooth on the dash. I went to EC day before and got all the drivers updated, but still no luck. Gaurav, from EC, connected his phone and it got connected but the music controls weren’t visible; but on pressing the power button, the controls were up and the music playing was also visible on the bottom right. and on connecting to his device the incoming calls were also visible.

Chronology since the problem popped up: The dashboard went blank/didn’t turn on when the key was turned on, and my sister was in a hurry so I asked her to go ahead without the dash, as the bike runs without that too. On her returning, I performed a reset with the brakes and power, and the screen was back on but this time with the old android notification sound on bootup too. On that day I had trouble with music and calls on dash, so had to unpair and pair again and then it worked fine. Again the next day faced the same problem, so I unpaired and paired again, and the music pop-up worked for 10 seconds and disappeared. Since then I have never been able to view music and incoming calls on my dash.

I’d (somewhat) understand if it was my phone’s issue, but neither has my phone received an update nor has the dash for it to behave this way. Post the problem I’ve got 2 updates on the dash and still nothing works!

Please don’t ask me to change my phone device, I’ve paid around 20-25k extra for buying the 450X which has the Bluetooth feature, expecting it to work for all devices :frowning:

PS. I use Samsung Galaxy M21 (SM-M215F/DS) running Android 11… My Ather Dash software is on Atherstack Borg 10.2.0-202138… Earlier had the beta version of Ather app installed, but now on a stable release of Ather app (5.0.0) with all permissions allowed.

didn’t know where to place this issue, so placed it here as it involves technical discussion and if anyone in the community faced similar issues, please help me out here!

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There have Ather owners who have clocked over 20-25k km, and yet to see a significant battery health drop which needed a battery replacement, also over period of 2-2.5 years of ownership. Ather seems to have even confidently said the battery should be good for 5-6 years on moderate usage.

I agree, but not everyone’s looking for 200km range scooter. I’m okay with a performance scooter with 85-100km range. Rumours of Ather planning a longer range scooter to come sometime next year might interest you, and you should look forward to it!

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My wife feels comfortable in pillion ride wearing sarees. The saree guard is very helpful.

What about lax QC off the assembly line that has led to scores of improperly finished scooters being delivered?

Also, what about people in charge of ensuring component quality being paid to look the other way while suppliers unloaded defective components on you, and eventually, customers like us who’ve paid a small fortune only to be saddled with a shoddy product?

@tarun , it’s a pleasant surprise that you’ve directly answered a question (and @shreyas.seethapathy clearly answered a battery related question on another thread). This is the sort of interaction that is expected. But all the introspection and self deprecation hasn’t clarified how you intend to do right by the early adopters who put their faith in the company, only to have been co-opted into a large beta test without their consent?

TLDR: Here’s the gist of my rambling condensed into a single question. Will you actually improve on the numerous shortcomings of the 450X and roll these improvements out to existing customers to properly justify the price tag, or will you announce something like a 460Y and push people to buy that instead?

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hey owners can’t find the proper topic for this but when is the next open house and virtual or physical?

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No information on this yet. But Ather could plan it “soon” as a result of continuous expansion into new cities, many new owners and a long time after the last event. Online would be better considering the large number of people, current situation and the ability of owners to attend throughout the country.

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hi I had recently got my ather and I wanted to know whether riding a little fast over potholes will damage the scooter like the tyre pressure will come down faster or the body panels will start rattling? (my first 2 wheeler that’s why I am having such newbie doubts):wink:

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Nothing as such should happen.

But, in a long run, your suspension may get affected I think.

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