Ownership Experience

Can anyone explain why it takes more than one hour to charge 6%???

0 - 80 is fast charging and 80 - 100 will take unusual time to fully charged.

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No fast charging, if ur charging at home. Public charging does fast charge upto 50%

@santosh.rism meant to tell is time taken to charge 0% - 80% is faster compared to 80% - 100% in home charging

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It’s just like any other gadget. It will trickle down. The speed comes down when it hits 80%

Then we need to ride together often to learn and unlearn stuffs! :grin:

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Hi Harish,

It is little complex to explain over here… if you are really keen to know why, you may read further in the following link.

https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries

Below graph gives an idea on current distribution over the charging cycle.

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Enjoy reading :blush:

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Whaaaat, could you give me some tips are tricks to up the mileage reading? Also, while you ride, how often does the red aura come on your dashboard? Does, a lot depend on it?

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I cannot answer for the super range what @rajeshkav gets. :slight_smile:

But in my experience it depends on road (humps), acceleration and weight and inclination…

Usually, for my driving pattern, I get a range of 80+ km…

Yesterday night I was driving on a good road but full of humps every 100 metres. Also, with a pillion rider which increased the weight by 65 KG.

The power consumption was easily increased by 40-50% because of weight and frequent acceleration because of road humps.

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Hi Rajesh,

Thanks a lot for sharing. Summary slow charging will help prolong the battery file.

My concern is on app. It showed 1hr time from 94% to 100%. Then completed 100% in just less then 30 mins. Is app accurate or near to accurate.

My experience on app:

  1. Charging status is not accurate.
  2. Gap doesn’t show shortest distance for two wheeler. No traffic updates, GPS is not accurate.
  3. Ride statistics : Never got complete ride details.

My experience on Efficiency:

  1. Down hill : Even if you give hard throttle, efficiency doesn’t show red indicator.
  2. UP hill : Even if you give smooth throttle or hard throttle, efficiency show red indicator.
  3. Based on Efficiency the predicted range is decided. Not sure if anyone has travelled more than 65 kms range.

Correct me if understanding is wrong.

Maximum range is 65 kms. Can I travel more than 65 kms based on predicted range?

Or predicted range is just to show how well you battery life is??

Yes, many times App is not correct and in many instances even dashboard is not correct in the estimate time remaining.

You plug out and plug in after a minute. It will show correct estimate.

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My daily travel is 55 km. And nowadays I only use Sports Mode. I don’t shut down during the day. At the end of the day, I can still see a range of 19-21km in Sports mode.

So yeah, you can travel way more that 65km.

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Harish,

Your understanding on slow charging is correct. In fact, BMS (Battery Management System) of 450 will take responsibility of these things and it is well designed & intelligent. In comparison, today’s mobile phone lacks these and it needs personal intervention for all these fine tuning.

As @prasathvishnu mentioned, App and even Dashboard charging indications on remaining time are inaccurate especially after 80%.

Gap?? ; Yes. traffic updates are missing. Expected to roll out in the next updates. GPS is okay and it serves. However I agree that app is not upto Google Maps yet.

Yes, same observation here too. Ather is aware of this and working.

There is gyroscope sensor which helps to decide the efficiency. If you are riding on uphill, definitely 450 needs more power. I too see red hue, however hue level (energy burnt) can be controlled with your riding skill. I could reduce significantly over the period of time.

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Ride efficiency is calculated as energy spent per distance travelled(for the last 10 sec).

Hence, even if you go slow uphill, there is a certain amount of energy that will have to be spent just to gain that potential energy. Hence the red glow.

The same thing applies while coming downhill, the energy consumption will be low as most of the energy spent is coming from the potential energy and not the battery pack.

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2 posts were merged into an existing topic: Battery SoC Indicator

How your getting the info ? Is it sync while in shutdown mode.

@Ather.Team, @Shreyas, Can you please address my questions too? :slight_smile:

Thanks for the detailed info Shreyas. Some of the information, I am yet to understand correctly which I may google later… :slight_smile:

#1 & #2 - For either of these, can Ather do to calibrate SOC or fine tune the calculation of discharge?

#3 - High Acceleration - At least in my case, high acceleration is not the cause for sure

#4 - Possible. My understanding: By the time we turn ON, because of the discharge during idle period though it shows 100%, it was not actually 100%, but it was corrected during the initial period causing fast drop from 100% to 97%. But, if that was the case, the SOC cannot again increase from 90 to 93% after turning ON after few hours.

One thing to add:
After the first drive, once the SOC drops below 90%, there is never a change in the SOC before & after shutdown. It happens only on the first drive after Full charge.

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My home charging pod is red all of a sudden and I am unable to charge, it say not charging, any tips to resolve this, tried restarting didn’t help

Please ignore power fluctuations it’s charging now :slight_smile:

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