You’ll be able to drive the scooter, but without paying for the basic connect/charge subscription, navigation and data services would not work.
Given the full featured Google Maps on the dashboard, bluetooth transfer rates are still too slow.
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one doubt regarding ather service plan for ather 450. there are no home charging and public charging if ather service is selected. does it mean that the ather dot will not work even if installed at home or ather dot will continue to work but the electricity consumed will not be reimbursed? sorry for posting it on 450x thread.
Google Maps APIs do not allow offline downloading yet. There are other providers like Here Maps and MapMyIndia, but the service is no where close to Google Maps.
That being said, the basic subscription also covers costs of software development and maintaining data pipelines and storage costs. These are crucial to get the exprerience of a smart and connected scooter.
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You get the Ather Dot, the home charger when you purchase the vehicle, this is wired to your electricity meter and the cost of electricity will be borne by you. It consumes about 3 units of electricity on a single charge.
What you will not get, however, is reimbursement of these costs like in Ather One. Public charging can also be used on a pay-as-you-go basis.
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Hope we were able to address your queries over the weekend, where we explained why we need to price it this way.
The 450 will be available for a limited time in Bangalore and Chennai. All new cities will be launched with the 450X.
Hi,
is there any additional yearly/ monthly subscription cost apart from the Rs1699 /1999 plan ?
the above subscription includes the scheduled servicing and emergency breakdown assistance, charging cost etc… not able to get clear view about this plan.
Also
would have loved if Ather had launched
- Ather 450B (b=basic)
basic led information display speed and percentage charge and remaining kms on charge
and removing all the hi-tech existing features and launch it much lower in price around 80 K and no subscription plans and just charge for regular servicing like any other bikes do.
most people don’t like the subscription mode of purchase.
- On 450X. add Citizen mode
A.Based on the city maps and roads restrict the top speed of the bike as per the traffic rules
B.Do not allow riding Ather on wrong directions in One-ways ( have seen many Ather owners riding in
one-ways)
C.Smart helmet with Indicators synced to scooter
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Hey, 3G is no where close to dead. There are some operators who’ve decided to shut down, but Vodafone hasn’t communicated anything officially. 3G still works good in Bangalore and Chennai, where the 450 will be continued to be sold for a limited time.
Additionally, we are working on a cost effective solution to upgrade the 3G module to a 4G one.
The subscription plans are not mandatory if you purchase it upfront.
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thank you so much for clarifying @abhishek.balaji. so the ather dot will continue to work and reimbursement will not be given. meaning i can charge the vehicle from my electric expense and subscribe to ather service for ota, connected services, and ather vehicle service. am i right? what i thought was if i dont subscribe to any of the services that provides home or public charging i will not be able to charge the vehicle at all even if i have ather dot installed at my home.
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Now that there’s some more info,
The subscription plans include Ather Charge subscription, which includes connectivity, unlimited public charging at Ather Grid, all data charges, data usage and pipeline costs, and OTA updates.
Further, for those who have pre-ordered the collector’s edition, servicing is free for the first year.
We will have other options should you want charging reimbursements and other add-on services, and will share details soon.
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That’s right
Not at all, you can continue to charge and ride the vehicle, but won’t be able to use features such as navigation, ride stats, location tracking etc, which need data connectivity.
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Hey @bvnr.mail,
There are two options to own a Ather 450X:
Pay the upfront cost of 1.49/1.59L, where you own the scooter completely.
- This gets you a standard 3 year warranty on the scooter and the battery. In these 3 years, if your battery degrades to 70% or lesser, we’ll replace it as per warranty.
- Since you’re buying it upfront, you can opt for subscription to Ather Charge or Ather Connect or Ather Service. It is NOT mandatory.
Pay 99k and pick a Pro/Plus performance pack:
- This means you own the scooter without the battery and pay for the battery as a subscription, unlimited warranty, data services, over-the air updates, unlimited fast charging at Ather Grid. This way, you can own the scooter with a much less upfront cost of 99k.
- This also means that if your battery degrades to anything less than 80% of its original capacity, we’ll replace with a new one. This works like your regular warranty, but for the entire lifetime of the scooter.
- This plan would be ideal if you want your scooter to provide a consistently high performance throughout its life, without you ever worrying about degradation.
- There is an exit option from the subscription, right from day one. Along with the option to pause upto a month, when you’re not going to be using it.
If the battery subscription plan doesn’t make sense to you as a light user, you can choose to buy the vehicle upfront at 1.49L or 1.59L. With light usage, your battery degradation is likely to be minimal, and the usable battery life would be longer than that of a heavy usage scenario. It anyway comes with a warranty of 3 years, but the battery has been built to last much longer, so you won’t have to worry about replacement for several years.
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Hey @kintu,
Sharing what we told others with a similar concern:
For a long time, EVs represented a compromise in performance and the only justification to switch to an EV was cost savings. However, that is no longer true.
An electric vehicle like 450X represents a huge shift in performance, and the intelligence features that it offers is changing the game. 450X’s acceleration is hard to match for most scooters today - petrol or electric. The smart features enabled by connectivity and touchscreen dashboard aren’t available in any other vehicle out there. And the fast and super-fast charging available on 450X has in-built technology that is years ahead of all its rivals. So, fundamentally, 450X is worth switching to for the vastly superior product that it is.
If the battery subscription plan doesn’t make sense to you as a light user, you can choose to buy the vehicle upfront at 1.49L or 1.59L. With light usage, your battery degradation is likely to be minimal, and the usable battery life would be longer than that of a heavy usage scenario. It anyway comes with a warranty of 3 years, but the battery has been built to last much longer, so you won’t have to worry about replacement for several years.
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Hey @aiyappa,
The team tried hard to incorporate a center stand, but with the placement of the battery, it was not feasible.
We’re sad we could not meet your requirements of a scooter, but would be glad if another EV suited your needs. It definitely helps build the EV ecosystem in India! 
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Hey check this post for all details about buying through subscription and upfront:
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In the subscription model, monthly costs include Ather Charge, which would include data connectivity, all data costs, OTA updates, unlimited public charging, and data pipeline and storage costs.
For a long time, EVs represented a compromise in performance and the only justification to switch to an EV was cost savings. However, that is no longer true. An electric vehicle like 450X represents a huge shift in performance, and the intelligence features that it offers is changing the game. 450X’s acceleration is hard to match for most scooters today - petrol or electric. The smart features enabled by connectivity and touchscreen dashboard aren’t available in any other vehicle out there. And the fast and super-fast charging available on 450X has in-built technology that is years ahead of all its rivals. So, fundamentally, 450X is worth switching to for the vastly superior product that it is.
Hope this helps!
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Bluetooth is is not exactly free. Every company which integrates bluetooth in a device incurs certification and licensing fees. To add to this, there are costs in developing the required services and software to enable you to connect seamlessly with existing devices.
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Note to software team to watch out for this! 
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Mentioned this during the AMA, but currently most EV scooters with similar specs are being sold at a loss to create a market. For us, the 450 was sold at a loss, to encourage people to adopt EVs. We did this to introduce a premium product in a price-sensitive market when we launched. In fact, if we had continued with 450, we would have increased its price anyways. Considering the experience of Ather 450 users, we’re convinced that the price of Ather 450X - a much superior product compared to the Ather 450, is justifiable for the value and experience it offers.
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Hey the monthly subscription fee includes Ather Charge, which covers connectivity, all data costs, Unlimited public charging at Ather Grid, and data pipeline and storage costs.
Further, for those who’ve pre-booked collector’s edition, one year of servicing is free as well.
The price of Ather 450X and the current on-road price of Ather 450 are not comparable because the Ather 450 is extremely underpriced at Rs.1.13 lacs on-road. We did this to introduce a premium product in a price-sensitive market when we launched. In fact, if we had continued with 450, we would have increased its price anyways. Considering the experience of Ather 450 users, we’re convinced that the price of Ather 450X - a much superior product compared to the Ather 450, is justifiable for the value and experience it offers.
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