450X: Product/Technical discussions

Starts if the speeds are below some threshold ig.

It does not work on Gen 3. The scooter will start only when its standstill.

oh wow! other Gen2 users can u replicate this?

I purchased a 450X in May 2022. Pardon my ignorance, but how do I identify or discern whether my beloved scooter is a Pro or a Plus?

Additionally, how do I ascertain the Generation number?

I await your timely response.

It is 450X and 450+ for May 2022. 450X if you have warp mode and Bluetooth. 450+ if it has less range (85km). And I think it is Gen 3 because Gen 3 was announced on 2022 January if I’m not wrong. You can identify Gen 3 if you have larger mirrors, 100/80-12 rear tyres MRF Zapper N. And autohold available in settings.

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The Gen 3 was announced in July 2022. What you’re having is the Gen 2. You can assess whether it is a 450 Plus or 450X with Bluetooth, 85 KM range in Eco mode for 450X.

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I didn’t know where else to put this question of mine. This is for the entire Ather Forum mod team. Why is there no separate category for Ather 450S? Now that the bike is in the market i think you guys should have a separate category for the same. I am really looking for a lot of answers regarding 450s like software updates, limitations when compared to 450x etc

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hi my scooter is not showing any signal since 8 hours. I restarted it multiple times. did a shutdown too. also all of this in an open area. still not showing signal. what to do?

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Don’t worry. Happening with me too in Delhi ncr

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is it sorted yet? mine still the same

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Mine sorted now

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same, the chargers were on outage too.

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I didn’t checked chargers as i hardly use fast ones.

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Guys does anyone know how this happen? is it broken? or just came out of its position? Anybody else faced this issue ever?

the grip was perfectly fine and, then i rested my hand on it and it started rotating so i tried to pull it out and it came out like butter… what should i do?

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I have faced this issue, on the left hand side.

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same left hand side, what to do now?

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Take it to the service centre, it’s just needs to be reinstalled with a screw, shouldn’t take more than an hour.

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Does anyone know what this tab is used for??

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In case of any errors.

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I own an Ather 450S 2.9 KWh and a couple of days back completed my 5K kms 1st service at Ather PCMC Pune Maharashtra service centre.

I wanted to share my brief ownership review coupled with 5K service experience.

As there is no 450S specific subcategory for review and ownership experience, I am putting my post in this category. I had applied for a category creation, but it is still pending approval. Mods can feel free to change category if needed.

I needed a secondary vehicle and after analyzing current range of option in the market, I decided to go for an EV as my primary is an ICE vehicle which can be used for longer journeys. This was going to be my first EV vehicle, so I had to be careful and after thorough study shortlisted 3 offerings 1] Ather 450S 2] TVS iQube 3] Bajaj Chetak. There was a 4th offering but was not even considered you know why :wink:. I took test rides of them all but as you would expect conclusion was Ather 450S being the best overall experience.

Since then, I have been using it daily for my commute. Here are my 2 cents about the ownership.

1] Looks Build Quality: 8.5/10

Looks can be subjective but for me I find it appealing. The rear looks a bit on the narrow side, but the overall angular design looks good.

Every component be it body panels, switches, side stand, side footrest feels solid and after 5K kms there is no rattle, loose parts, creaking and no panel gaps. I take good care of my vehicles and that may be the reason it still looks and feels like day 1.

2] Ride & Performance Experience: 8.5/10

The ride is sporty but comfortable (although not plush) with good feedback and feel. The grip is good. It’s a blast to ride it especially on good, paved roads. Similarly, it performs excellent on bad roads with suspension handling effortlessly. I enjoy riding the 450S irrespective of road and weather condition.

3] Practicality & Pillion Comfort: 8/10 & 7/10

There’s load of under seat storage and good space in the front footrest area to handle a lot of groceries and goods, so no complains there.

Pillion comfort on the other hand needs improvement (which was done in Rizta) as seat is not long enough and if pillion is healthy, it will be uncomfortable for them. The pillion footrests that are included in the body design instead of the usual folding ones although looks good doesn’t work great and causes discomfort to pillion irrespective of height and weight.

4] Software & Features: 8.5/10

The reason for going with the S variant was that the touch interface didn’t seem worth the extra asking price to me coupled that with display lag issue heard online and praise from Shumi from MotorInc for the colour inverted LCD of the 450S made my choice clear and boy was I right. Never even once did I feel I was missing out on the touch display of the X variant. All the features are useful to me & work as expected. There is no lag or display shut off issue etc. I am happy with it except for the maps that only shows arrows (disadvantage of inverted LCD displays) which is lacklustre, and I never used it after the first two times. All the other ProPack features are actually useful and not gimmicky. The app compliments well to the overall experience.

There is the occasional sync, no network, Bluetooth connection issues but not a big deal,

5] Range and Charging: 7/10

One thing I like about Ather is that the range you see on your dashboard is the range you get, and it is reliable. I always ride in Sport mode with coasting regen turned on and hardly use the brakes (used only for stopping) It feels like one pedal driving and after getting used to it, it just feels comfortable and natural. I usually get a range of 68 to 75 on average in Sports mode.

Note: In sport mode on 100% charge, the dashboard shows 70 Kms. (I am 6 ft and weigh 75 kgs)

Ride mode is ok & Eco is grandpa slow. But Smart Eco is stupid and dangerous as accelerator inputs from your wrist will never give the same acceleration output and it might give more range but it’s not for me. I had a bad experience with it and since them I have never used it again.

The range is nothing to praise about and is too low for the price in my opinion but its more than enough for me and so I never faced range anxiety.

Charging with included 350W charger is painfully slow. If you must go someplace but vehicle range is less than required, then don’t even think about charging for some time and you will get enough range for the trip. It will not happen because of slow charging.

I usually plug it in overnight and it is full by morning. So, when people ask me how long it takes to charge, I say only 1 min, as 30 sec to plug in the charger and 30 sec to remove it in the morning. :grin:

Overall, I am happy with my purchase and after buying the vehicle I had not once needed to take it to service centre for any issues. Just plug it in, charge it, turn the key on and off you go. It’s been a completely trouble-free experience so far and hope it will continue the same.

Now comes the 5k service experience.

I dropped the vehicle at PCMC Pune SC on 21st Oct 24 morning and was told vehicle will be ready by evening. In evening I receive a call by 6:30 notifying that the vehicle is ready, but SC will close by 7 pm so come quick or you can collect the vehicle next day 10 am. I confirmed that I will collect in that evening itself.

When I reached the SC at 6:50 pm the SC is open, but I am notified that the billing person who called me has left and now I will have to collect it tomorrow. What kind of sick joke was that. Even after I notified that I would collect it that evening itself and reached before time they didn’t have the patience to wait 10 min that to after saying “ok you can come” to me on call. If you had to go you should have mentioned it in the call itself that sir, I won’t wait for you and even though I am calling you to collect your vehicle you won’t be able to collect it as I won’t be there. I came all the way to SC like it was a prank. So instead of getting angry over some stupid SC personnel I left and came back next day evening after my office to collect the vehicle.

After reaching the SC, the invoice was for 1,079 which included 5K service, some zip ties, & “premium polish”. I paid for it and when I went to see the vehicle it was in the same condition as I left it with the same mud marks. It looked like the vehicle was just sitting there and nothing was done. When enquired they said service is done. This was stupidity at its best like the customer has a big C written on their forehead.

I then told him that the vehicle is in same condition as I left it in SC & what about the wash and "premium polish’ to which he said, “Service is done sir and we wash when customer comes to collect vehicle”. He asked one of the service guys to take vehicle to wash and after the pressure wash, he just used some 3M solution that we use on vehicle plastic and applied it with sponge to the vehicle’s basically all black plastic parts. And that’s it for the "Premium polish’ worth Rs 200.

Overall disappointing service experience and the prank on first day was just salt rub on the wound.

After the service, I have no idea if they even check the vehicle, its belt, software update, battery health etc or was it just sitting in the parking lot and when I came, he just washed it and returned the vehicle. I have to trust the word of the SC person that service was done. I don’t understand why just software and belt checking costs Rs 800 when basically no oil, air filters, parts were changed like in case of ICE vehicle. The point of EV should be low service costs as basically nothing needs to be done. And for approx. Rs 1200 I got a glorified pressure water wash for my first 5K service. This concluded my extremely mediocre 1st service experience.

The vehicle is good, but I am not sure about the whole overcharged service which feels more like rip-off and less like actual good service. Had there been no compulsion from Ather to only get service from authorized SC or your warranty gets voided I would never get my vehicle servicing done at Ather authorized SC, but at present we have got no choice but to get ripped off all in the name of keeping the warranty safe for that unlucky rainy day when you will need it.

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