450X: Product/Technical discussions

Just because someone can’t be bothered to apply common sense to product design doesn’t make product design hard. The biggest reason for shit software is our willingness to grin and bear it, providing no incentive for the manufactturer to improve.

I mean, sonething is seriously whack when FOSS is better engineered and updated while a paid, closed product wallows in mediocrity.

The icing on this cake is the brazenness with which they still keep touting how this scooter is “smat” and “connected”, ane nobody puts them in their place.

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I can use regen only when 58kms range is left. I use RIDE MODE

I have used downhill 1km reg. To increase range by 1km. I use twist throttle reverse, i didnt find the brake reg. Much helpful

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Regen is disabled above 85% charge level.

Because it isn’t. And rying to maximize whatever little is available will cause your handle grip to start loosening.

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What is the sign of regen on dashboard, I never ever feel it

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There is no regen indicator. Once your are on or below 84% and riding above 20kmph, try twisting the accelerator in the reverse direction. You will feel the scooter slowing down quicker than usual. More pronounced when speed is around 35 kmph.

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Bhai vissor quality is bad and front suspension is not that good

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When regen engages, you can feel the scooter slowing down and no longer coasting. Also, the slow down feel is more pronounced at speeds of 24-40kmph.

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Hi all, Is it safe to shutdown 450X frequently if not in used for more than 2 hours ?

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No

Never ever do it for 2 hours

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It’s perfectly safe to shutdown for any duration. I leave my 450 shutdown overnight at times and for longer durations when I travel out of the city.

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Not for 2 hours but more than 2 hours, for example when i go to office and park Ather for 9 hours till office is over. Can i shut down in that case ? Also overnight after I reach home until i use vehicle next morning

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Its not needed for such short times.

Use it whenever u r going out for days like 7-10 days or one two weeks like

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Yes it is safe to do so. Hours, days, weeks. Does not matter. Duration is upto you like Raghav suggested above. I too shutdown my 450 almost after every use if I know I won’t use it for several hours or only the next day. Unnecessary battery drain otherwise.

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Yeah but he is asking for 450x not for 450 for 450x it is not recommended for 1 day or 2 days because it may damage some internal systems. IMO

Yeah for 9 hours it’s not necessary and overnight shutdown also you can do like if you don’t want degradation of the overnight you can do but still not good for the vehicle.

Why do you need? It degrades maximum 2-3% overnight in my case only 1% maximum will be the degradation in the night. So 1%,2% is ok don’t worry

450 and 450x both are safe to shutdown and does not have any internal system problems anymore there were some issues in the earlier 450 but those problem no longer exist.

So its completely safe to shutdown for any time period.

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Does Find My Scooter work if Scooter is shutdown?

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No, it will not work, When you shutdown all connected services will also disconnect.

The whole point I think for EV is to Conserve those percentages BTW, Even Ather team shutdowns as soon as the scooter is not in use, so it’s completely safe don’t worry.

It also saves the range which is already very limited and in the standby the range keeps on decreasing

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Actually in my case a total of 4-5 percent is lost every night if I don’t shutdown. But based on many of the above posts the 450X and newer models of 450 ahead of December 2019 are safe to be shutdown on a daily basis. Only thing is be prepared to be waiting for the display to turn on taking more time than usual…

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Ok guys chill :cold_face: :sweat_smile: I just said that for 1 day not needed because it degrades only some amount of charge. If you still want to conserve for long distance’s then doing shutdown is necessity

Usually the 450 also doesn’t degrades much since our vehicle is almost crossed 2 years, after 2 years of usage it degrades little more and shutdown is needed now a days

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Its absolutely not smart. Its andhon main kaana raja. If you know what I mean. Imagine walking up to your 450X and due to bugs the Bluetooth doesn’t connect and your bike just doesn’t start at all. So, this will be completely unreliable given the terrible software experience we get with Ather product for “free”. Peace :v:

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