450X: Product/Technical discussions

[mhussain516]

Thanks for the support got my bike delivered, got some points to ask, my bike got charged 100% when i took later in the morning it shows 98% ? When am in Eco display shows 55kms to go once i go to sports mode and come back to Eco mode why does it shows 53 kms ? Drop of 2 kms ? What it I charge every alternate and put my bike in shutdown mode, will it effect my battery life ? Reply appreciated Am in love with the bike

[kanhaiyalohar900 (KANHAIYA LOHAR)]

@blackworks @raghav.srinivasan @pshekhawat53 @tarunsmehta @abhishek.balaji Yes, I also agree with this point. I need more range because I daily ride 80 Kms and I need to charge it both end to increase the range so that I may reach to Home via alternate route in case of some work. Alternate route cause me 15 km more. So with single end charge I cannot make it. I think range should be more then 150 kms

[nagabushan.c]

what does the red glow near speedometer for? i have observed, it wont glow if the pick up slow steady, does it has to do anything with riding style?

[a1e (Harshil)]

It represents the rider’s efficiency while riding the vehicle. The more aggressively you use the throttle, brighter the red halo will be.

[stevekoshydaniel2 (steve daniel)]

But then why does it light it bright when I use 10 percent of the throttle at eco mode for speed of up to 10 in traffic

[hemanth.anand (Hemanth H A)]

The following posts will answer all about the Real Time Ride efficiency indicator (not exactly real time now)

How ride efficiency is calculated? (The red glow around the range number)

Ride efficiency is calculated as energy spent per distance travelled(for the last 10 sec). Hence, even if you go slow uphill, there is a certain amount of energy that will have to be spent just to gain that potential energy. Hence the red glow. The same thing applies while coming downhill, the energy consumption will be low as most of the energy spent is coming from the potential energy and not the battery pack.

@Shreyas.G

Not entirely sure about this, but here’s what I’ve learned about the energy consumption indicator:

1. The red aura is based on the energy consumption averaged for the last 5/10 seconds.
2. If it’s below a certain threshold, there will be no change in colour. As it crosses that number, there are different energy consumption slabs for the intensity and diameter of the ring.
3. These thresholds and slabs are also different for each mode. For instance at 30 Wh/km, there may not be a ring in the Sport mode but it will appear in the Eco mode.
4. When we go into regen, the average energy consumption suddenly drops, and within 5 seconds, it completely becomes negative, hence we see the colour disappear suddenly. However, the same can be achieved by simply coasting or braking. I don’t think there’s a definitive way to indicate regen today.

@abhishek.balaji

Real-time efficiency indicator will now consider the efficiency of the last 10 seconds of riding, rather than throttle input for more accurate feedback about your riding style

[pshekhawat53 (Pawan Shekhawat)]

Home charging is good for battery life or fast charging I am little confused

[sandeep6513 (Sandeep M)]

Home charging is best as fast charging regularly damages battery faster. But warranty is applicable even though you use any of it n number of times.

[tanishqkhare (Tanishq)]

Hey Just observed something strange on the 450X. The area near the left handle( throttle) has some gap behind the grip while on the right hand side,it’s properly fit. One can feel the round edges on the of the left throttle but it’s perfectly fit/smooth at the right hand side. Is it normal?

[Rahul (Rahul Ravindranath)]

@tanishqkhare

The area near the left handle( throttle) has some gap behind the grip while on the right hand side,it’s properly fit. One can feel the round edges on the of the left throttle but it’s perfectly fit/smooth at the right hand side. Is it normal?

Yes it’s completely normal, right side is the throttle sensor unit behind the grip.

[VISHWA (vishwanath roy)]

Does ather 450x has regenerate braking

[thakur.ketan (Ketan Thakur)]

Yes, it does have regenerative braking. Details here:

Regenerative Braking Tips!

Some tips on regen from my side: You can use regen to slow down the vehicle two ways - by twisting the throttle in the opposite direction, there’s about 5 degrees of play here. Second, if you apply the brakes, regen activates then as well. Regen will work when your charge level or SOC is less than about 84%, and your speed has to be > 20kmph If you aggressively use regen, you can gain back about 4% back on a full charge Regen is useful when you’re cruising at higher speed, and you want to slow…

[tanishqkhare (Tanishq)]

I understand. But the right side grip fitting well and no such thing on the left side with sharp edges seems a bit strange. The circular part of the grip that is in the end seems hanging rather than the fixed part of the right one. I’m referring to the gap behind the grip and not the bigger gap on both the sides of the handle.

[maniashwin3003 (Mani Ashwin)]

IMHO Ather Labs is their way of trying to give the masses more ‘bang for their buck’. Unfortunately nothing can be done at this point to upgrade hardware. Doesn’t look like much can be done on the software as well due to hardware and other limitations, so they have to keep the product alive in some way!

[kushalpout (Pikachu .)]

Hey @abhishek.balaji how great would it be if you guys use the reverse throttle (used for regen) for quick reverse when the scooter is stationary. This could be multifunctional, use for regen as usual and for quick reverses. @tarun anyway you guys already use jio esim, a tie-up with jio/reliance stores for fast chargers would be phenomenal !

[harshithbhat (Harshith)]

If I’m not mistaken, this was a topic of conversation earlier too and there were concerns raised about how that would be risky because it is natural for people to twist the throttle in the reverse direction a bit without realising it when stationary at traffic stops, etc., resulting in reversing into the vehicle behind. Considering there is anyway a shortcut to enable park assist using the brakes and ignition, I guess this should take care of most quick reverse needs albeit with one second of extra effort, right?

Agree with the Reliance tie-up, BTW!

[wmayuresh (Space Grey Shuttle 🚀)]

If WiFi is part of published vehicle specification, why is it not available to users? What is it signifies as part of published specifications?

[power_light2000 (Parveen Singh Rajput)]

Looks like there is a piece of conflicting information published, While the Main page does not show Wifi-connectivity as an option, The support page does show the wifi connectivity supported.

FYI the hardware does support wifi, it’s software barred. But I don’t know why they are holding back, I mean just enable it for low connectivity in 4g. it is a perfectly available option and Andriod OS always supports it from the core.

[nadar.manikandan (Manikandan Nadar)]

Hi Abhishek, the on board navigation is rarely useful.

1. Its painfully slow
2. most location not searchable
3. the google maps is so striped down it is not useful and only frustrats when necessary.