450X: Product/Technical discussions

Increased range helps in 3 ways.

  1. You can charge less frequently
  2. You can continue to use the vehicle without battery replacement for longer time
  3. You can go for occasional long rides.

Benefits of #1 and #2 is applicable for all. But, if the battery cost is expected to go down in future, increasing range too much is counter effective from cost side. So, 120-150 km range is a balanced range.

#3 - Around 10% people may go for 50-75 km ride occasionally. They will be happy with 150 km range.

Anything more than 150 km range will be helpful to <1% of the people. Because benefits are far less for the cost and weight incurred, not worth.

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Every one does not live in Mumbai. If you charge the battery every day, soon battery will become week and soon the day will come when you have to change the battery.

That’s why good range is important for us.

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hey @abhishek.balaji my Ather 450X has stopped displaying music and incoming calls; but connects to bluetooth on the dash. I went to EC day before and got all the drivers updated, but still no luck. Gaurav, from EC, connected his phone and it got connected but the music controls weren’t visible; but on pressing the power button, the controls were up and the music playing was also visible on the bottom right. and on connecting to his device the incoming calls were also visible.

Chronology since the problem popped up: The dashboard went blank/didn’t turn on when the key was turned on, and my sister was in a hurry so I asked her to go ahead without the dash, as the bike runs without that too. On her returning, I performed a reset with the brakes and power, and the screen was back on but this time with the old android notification sound on bootup too. On that day I had trouble with music and calls on dash, so had to unpair and pair again and then it worked fine. Again the next day faced the same problem, so I unpaired and paired again, and the music pop-up worked for 10 seconds and disappeared. Since then I have never been able to view music and incoming calls on my dash.

I’d (somewhat) understand if it was my phone’s issue, but neither has my phone received an update nor has the dash for it to behave this way. Post the problem I’ve got 2 updates on the dash and still nothing works!

Please don’t ask me to change my phone device, I’ve paid around 20-25k extra for buying the 450X which has the Bluetooth feature, expecting it to work for all devices :frowning:

PS. I use Samsung Galaxy M21 (SM-M215F/DS) running Android 11… My Ather Dash software is on Atherstack Borg 10.2.0-202138… Earlier had the beta version of Ather app installed, but now on a stable release of Ather app (5.0.0) with all permissions allowed.

didn’t know where to place this issue, so placed it here as it involves technical discussion and if anyone in the community faced similar issues, please help me out here!

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There have Ather owners who have clocked over 20-25k km, and yet to see a significant battery health drop which needed a battery replacement, also over period of 2-2.5 years of ownership. Ather seems to have even confidently said the battery should be good for 5-6 years on moderate usage.

I agree, but not everyone’s looking for 200km range scooter. I’m okay with a performance scooter with 85-100km range. Rumours of Ather planning a longer range scooter to come sometime next year might interest you, and you should look forward to it!

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My wife feels comfortable in pillion ride wearing sarees. The saree guard is very helpful.

What about lax QC off the assembly line that has led to scores of improperly finished scooters being delivered?

Also, what about people in charge of ensuring component quality being paid to look the other way while suppliers unloaded defective components on you, and eventually, customers like us who’ve paid a small fortune only to be saddled with a shoddy product?

@tarun , it’s a pleasant surprise that you’ve directly answered a question (and @shreyas.seethapathy clearly answered a battery related question on another thread). This is the sort of interaction that is expected. But all the introspection and self deprecation hasn’t clarified how you intend to do right by the early adopters who put their faith in the company, only to have been co-opted into a large beta test without their consent?

TLDR: Here’s the gist of my rambling condensed into a single question. Will you actually improve on the numerous shortcomings of the 450X and roll these improvements out to existing customers to properly justify the price tag, or will you announce something like a 460Y and push people to buy that instead?

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hey owners can’t find the proper topic for this but when is the next open house and virtual or physical?

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No information on this yet. But Ather could plan it “soon” as a result of continuous expansion into new cities, many new owners and a long time after the last event. Online would be better considering the large number of people, current situation and the ability of owners to attend throughout the country.

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hi I had recently got my ather and I wanted to know whether riding a little fast over potholes will damage the scooter like the tyre pressure will come down faster or the body panels will start rattling? (my first 2 wheeler that’s why I am having such newbie doubts):wink:

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Nothing as such should happen.

But, in a long run, your suspension may get affected I think.

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There’s chance of loosened mirrors if the tyre pressure is on the higher side. Might also quicken the cracking of visor section…

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Yes I have noticed that the mirrors get a little wobbly and have bought a tyre pressure inflator which tells the pressure in the tyre also so will be able to control the tyre pressure exactly.

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A post was merged into an existing topic: Ask an Ather Owner!

yes even my mirrors also gets wobbly. (replying to myself😂)

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Thanks for the support got my bike delivered, got some points to ask, my bike got charged 100% when i took later in the morning it shows 98% ? When am in Eco display shows 55kms to go once i go to sports mode and come back to Eco mode why does it shows 53 kms ? Drop of 2 kms ? What it I charge every alternate and put my bike in shutdown mode, will it effect my battery life ? Reply appreciated Am in love with the bike

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@blackworks @raghav.srinivasan @pshekhawat53 @tarunsmehta @abhishek.balaji Yes, I also agree with this point. I need more range because I daily ride 80 Kms and I need to charge it both end to increase the range so that I may reach to Home via alternate route in case of some work. Alternate route cause me 15 km more. So with single end charge I cannot make it. I think range should be more then 150 kms

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what does the red glow near speedometer for? i have observed, it wont glow if the pick up slow steady, does it has to do anything with riding style?

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It represents the rider’s efficiency while riding the vehicle. The more aggressively you use the throttle, brighter the red halo will be.

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But then why does it light it bright when I use 10 percent of the throttle at eco mode for speed of up to 10 in traffic

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The following posts will answer all about the Real Time Ride efficiency indicator (not exactly real time now)

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