Tips on how to get good range from your Ather 450X

That’s great! Keep up the good riding style and you can get this range with almost every ride. Happy to help, happy flight :v:

That’s great to hear, your bike’s range is increasing day by day :v: I hope you got the hang of your riding style now.

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Today I tried the suggestion a per @saranyam.13891. Got good efficiency figures.

Kept the speed @60 in warp mode.

Need to try at higher speeds also

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Open invitation to @saranyam.13891 as a speaker in the next Bengaluru Owners meet!.

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Oh wow! Definitely did not expect this! :v: Thank you :blush:

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A post was merged into an existing topic: 450X: Discussions on battery

In auto world, I think only Tesla does their own batteries.

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I have heard in Ather 450x launch if I am right. They are importing only the lithium cells. The battery pack is fully designed by them.

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I see the red halo in my 450X irrespective of how slowly I raise the speed or am at low speeds. It just goes off at 0. Checked tyre pressure and it’s all fine. The best efficiency I’m able to achieve is in the range of 28-30 Wh/km. Trying to follow all tips mentioned by @saranyam.13891 , but just can’t go below this. Anything that I might be missing on?

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28 to 30 is decent. You will achieve the indicated range and more. I average between 30 and 33 and easily manage above TrueRange.

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How is that possible? Logically. Since the modes only do 2 things.

  1. Alter throttle response
  2. Limit the top speed

So riding at 50Km/Hr at full throttle in eco mode should consume exactly the same as riding 50Km/hr in Sports/Warp mode. Because essentially what you’re doing is limiting your throttle input which, if you were in ECO mode the scooter would do it itself. The only way that I think you’ve noticed this, is because in sports mode sometimes you can very slowly accelerate up to say 60Kmph with a marginal increase in consumption just before a fly over or an incline and you can continue cruising at 45-50Kmph, resulting lower consumption than just cruising at full throttle in eco mode. But on a flat surface. Im really unable to understand how you can get different ranges by cruising at the speed but in diff modes.

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This would matter. Say you are cruising and hit traffic, slow down. Once you clear that block you want to accelerate to cruising speed. Assuming you are at 20kmph and upshift to 50kmph - power draw would not be equitable across all 3 modes. Ideally an experienced rider would be able to control power delivery irrespective of the driving mode, but how many of us care or have the patience to do that? - i definitely dont! :slight_smile:

Imagine doing this ever so often in the wonderful roads of Bengaluru, courtesy BESCOM, BWSSB, BBMP etc.

I am still a firm believer that if you dont intend to max out your range in one commute (to-fro 50 to 60kms per day), you should not worry about range!

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Well ya, I understand that you can get much better range in sports mode and being conservative with the throttle as opposed to pinning the throttle in Eco mode.

Agreed. But what @saranyam.13891 is saying, is cruising at 50Kmph in Eco mode vs Sports mode, you’d get more range if you were in sports mode :confused: how is that possible.

Even this I don’t think you need to worry about if you’re going to cruising most of your commute.

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That’s fine, I averaged at 30 Wh/km for about 700KMs, I got this from my Trip B on the scooter. Yet I get 100KMs range in sports mode.

It’s a simple fact that you are at max throttle in Eco mode and not in Sports mode at 50kmph. Trying to use max throttle definitely uses up more battery. This is what I have observed.

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Absolutely. But max throttle in eco doesn’t translate to the motor actually consuming that much power. Full throttle in eco to maintain 50kmph must consume the same power as partial throttle in sports mode.

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Not exactly basically we are limiting the speed artificially in diff modes so when you try to max the speed in eco mode there will be a max resistance to limit the speed hence more power is utilised.

This is my understanding.

The power usage increases but does not translate to speed as we are opposing it to generate speed so it will be converted to some other form.

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Wiat. That would mean. Ather is using its breaks?? I really doubt that. See the mode will make the throttle input cut off over the set top speed. Nothing else. So if you’re full throttle and stuck at a particular speed youd consume just as much if you were in a higher mode which isn’t cutting you off. The energy consumed is dependent on how much the motor is consuming and not what throttle input you’re giving while cruising. As while cruising. No matter which mode. The motor must be using the same amoutn of energy. The only explanation I can think of is, in down slopes. In sports mode you might end up picking up more speed which you coudlmt in eco and that momentum allows you to go easy on the throttle later on. That could possibly make it more efficient.

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As I said that is just my understanding only. I might also be wrong. I also want to hear what other had to say. Ather may not explain this or may it (if it does not come under design related policies) I don’t know And I didn’t mean breaks though.

I said so because initially I also thought similar to what you said but then I felt that in such case only once it hits max speed of that mode the throttle response further cuts off, but in contrast the pickup of the vehicle is also changing with different modes. By max resistance I meant some how they are trying to reduce the current / power input to motor with same amount of throttle in other mode. That is what I meant.

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Right. That would mean. Lesser consumption.

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