Implications of Using Ather Grid as Primary Charging source

Hi Have 2 questions

  1. What are the implications of using the Ather Grid as the Primary Charging source daily?

  2. Is there documented battery degradation at a significantly higher rate vs the normal degradation when charging using a mix of Home & Grid charging by Ather ?

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@abhishek.balaji @tarun

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  1. Your battery health will degrade faster if you charge regularly at Ather Grid. It is meant only to use as and when required and not regularly. Also if you charge 0-100% or whatever, it may cause problems to others who are in the need of charge.
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Official Ather communication seems to say Otherwise

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I say from what I have seen/heard from the online meets and reading stuff on the forum. Rest, I am not sure why CS says so.

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Which is why I’ve posted this question here… since it needs clarity…Has Ather observed a significant disadvantage of using Fast charging primarily or has it just been hearsay?

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AFAIK, there has not been a battery replacement even in the 450’s. Many may not use Grid daily since everyone has a charger and do want to take care of the battery and since are using EV’s, have the knack of calculated rides and stuff.

Someone from the team should be in a better position to answer this but the availability of data has slim chances.

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This isn’t specific to Ather, rather, this is normal behavior with lithium ion batteries. Every time you try to push more power into a battery, it degrades the cell.

Once in a while topping up your battery at a fast charger isn’t going to cause too much degradation, but frequently using the fast charger as your primary source of charging will reduce battery life significantly.

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The ideal to charge your 450/450X would be at home, using a 20-80-20 charging pattern. This ensure maximum battery longevity. If you use Ather Grid’s fast chargers, then yes; your battery degrades faster. Fast charging on an occasional basis will have little impact on battery life, but repeated fast charging will degrade your battery much faster than regular charging on a daily basis. The Ather Grid serves as a helping hand in situations where you desperately need charge when you’re out, and so shouldn’t serve as your primary charging source. You could charge at home using Ather’s portable charge if you can’t install a full-blown home charger.

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@prateek.gulli I use the Grid as a main source of charge, due to apartment issues, I use the app extensively to see if a charger is free and go there. I usually top up the charge on the way to work, and top it up on the way back. I never charge more than 82% and usually plug in at 44%, It seems fine, it charges well, and holds the charge well too.

Battery technology has come a long way to combat the effects of fast charging, besides battery life is calculated on “charge cycles” regardless of how its charges. 0-100 fast charge, slow charge, etc… will still use the same amount of cycles. Ather batteries are rated upto 2000 cycles, roughly equates to 0-100 * 2000 times.

Use the Grid ethically, wait your turn, don’t try to hit 100% on the grid (it takes forever, in the time you reach a 100%, 4 other people can do 80%) be responsible and respectful. Other than that go for it bud.

Realistic charging time is from around 1.2% to 1.5% per minute (450x). Ather Grid 2.0 is slightly faster.

Hope this helps.

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Since how many months you are using Ather public charging as main source