new charger Ather pc lite for s and x 2.9kw (duo for 3.7 kw) software locked the charging speed on 450s and it doesn’t get nothing new but will still have a price increase of 5k apex still in production with traction control too now Ather treats it’s owners like garbage
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Bro came back after ages just to drop another hidden gem 
Btw the hypersand color is awesome.
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Hey Guys, If You all kept your Expectations to the Reality then It will be an Awesome Show
For Rest, It will be an Average Show fr fr 
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Change’ to their new tyre simple as that to increase range , as there is no hardware changes Just changing to new tyre may give same range as news version as of I understand This is my assumption must be true I guss
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I can tell bro stated facts and got flagged
Idk if this is the best 450x yett thought apex was the principal of performance (disclaimer no Apex users hearts ware broken with this )2.1L 
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The ongoing developments surrounding the Ather 450x lineup have sparked widespread criticism, and for good reason. Ather’s claims of innovation and performance are increasingly being overshadowed by the perception of strategic missteps and neglect of loyal customers.
Ather initially marketed the Rizzta with an enticing pitch emphasizing safety, comfort, and performance—a message that resonated with many buyers and drove impressive sales. However, the release of enhanced features for the 450x shortly thereafter has left many early adopters feeling misled. Customers who made recent purchases now face the frustrating reality that, had they waited just a couple of months, they could have accessed improved range, better performance, and additional features.
This apparent disregard for existing customers, particularly those with older generations of the 450x (Gen 3.0 to Gen 4.x), is a glaring issue. Despite the potential of software updates, Ather has failed to address the hardware limitations of these models—most notably the battery. For a company that markets itself as a leader in innovation, the lack of support or upgrade options for loyal customers feels less like progress and more like planned obsolescence.
The Instagram reel hinting at possible improvements for older models added fuel to the fire, raising expectations only to leave many feeling duped when nothing materialized. This reinforces the sentiment that Ather is prioritizing marketing optics over genuine customer satisfaction.
A forward-thinking company would have used this opportunity to reward customer loyalty by either offering meaningful upgrades for older models or introducing a new product lineup with substantial advancements. Instead, Ather’s incremental updates and lack of transparency have created a sense of betrayal, tarnishing the trust of its customer base.
If Ather wants to retain its reputation and maintain its foothold in the EV market, it must rethink its strategy. True innovation lies not only in technological advancement but also in ensuring that customers feel valued and supported—regardless of when they purchased their product.
As it stands, the message from many 450x users is clear: disappointment, frustration, and the lingering thought of “if only I had waited.”
But new colours look really good
On my way to get it wrapped in those colours
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Hence Proved!!
Apex is nothing just an Ordinary 450 of 2025 with Brinjal Colour
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Am happy seeing the new Ather and their internal upgrades. They have extracted as much as possible now I assume soo Just as same As
Excited to see the next iather17 ooops I ment Ather next gen 
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Dear @tarun . What’s stopping you from renaming your company from Ather to Hater? Coz surely that’s your goal.
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So u mean to say they give us an 
@24 and same @25
I would be mad if they flage me I’ll take it
But u know what’s more crazy
Need help upload images It says sorry it was an error uploading png
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Seen changes that have been done in motor power? New 450 series have only 6 kw Previous had 6.4 kw
So idk what logic you say
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ok and what else? just this for 20k more is justified now?
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No the Brinjal, I mean the Brinjal Colour
People over paid for the Apex, Gen 2 450x is > than Apex 
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So everything is for 2025s nothing for older Gens ? Software wise…
Other then the new tyre from them with higher range ones < Michelin extra millage one are better I feel so
But that reaction control’ is crazyyyy bruh I cannot post that imsg unfortunately but what they showed it’s crazy even on wet surface it’s going 
just add some heavywet tyre it’s all set
The new apex is in townnnnn
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What is backward compatible from this new ? What is the new hardware in this
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Nothing is backwards compatible with existing scooters on account of new hardware changes.
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One and Only Hardware that is Backward Compatible in this Update is : Lower Rolling Resistance Tyre, Period
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What Gen is this? 4.2? 4.2.1? 5.0? I lost track now.
But this time the HW upgrades resulted in price increase as well, even now I guess if people don’t want those features they can get the older Gen from the remaining stock for 5k less.
Also, @saadshaikh747 pointed out in our group that the battery IP rating changed from IP67 to IPX7.
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New Year New Ather
Its 2025’s 450 
Showroom People calling it as Gen 5 