That’s what they said during 450og launch. There will be no newer model, 1 month later after receiving my 450 delivery 450x was announced 
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The 450 platform is almost a decade old and getting outdated. If they plan to release more models on this platform, serious rework is needed to keep new customers happy.
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From what I’ve heard & experienced, the sales team at dealerships say anything to convince customers to buy the current available scooters
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Hi, An Apex owner here. So after a long two months of the scooter ownership, I can surely say that there is a few minor annoyances that I have faced.
-Firstly the TPMS. Its pocessed. There is atleast a 2-3psi drift between the actual and the measured value. I am sure to get the TPMS alerts after a couple of days after I it up with air saying the Pressure is lower than the recommended amount.
-The UI responsiveness is sometimes really unbearable. Usually gets unregistered touches when I switch the motor on and try to a waypoint in the map.
-The map, in various occasions would basically get glitched out of existence when I am in middle of a long trip. No map textures most of the time, sometimes not even Geolocation would be visible.
-The Warp+ has the worst degradation I have seen in the 450series. If you are a person who Wheee off a traffic signal, make sure there is no one following you for the third or fourth traffic signal. Over that time most of the Performance in that mode goes away leaving you with power comparable to ride mode or worse. This steep drop down in performance can be seen as a safety hazard, as new riders may be caught off-guard and inturn opening up the possibility for an accident.
-Side panels fogging up from inside is a real thing and is not a very pleasant experience. The frosted inside helps a bit in disguising the issue a bit…but you can literally see through glass. If you know what I’m saying.
So literally every feature that is setting the Apex apart in the 450 series comes with annoyances that is yet to be fixed at the time of this posting.
I’m hoping most of these issues all my fellow riders have faced too. If there is any fix for these above issues, please do not refuse to share. Thanks you.
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Faced UI jitteriness one time
Side panel do get fogged up a bit but I have noticed they are barely visible after 2-3 mins of driving and visible only if you look from very close(I have also washed the scooter with jet spray & the above mentioned stays true for me)
Regarding warp+ I haven’t faced problems yet as my longest ride has been only 6 km with 84 kmph as top speed. I’m gonna test it out for 20 kms in aggressive riding style in few days.
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This 6 KMs Stretch Ride is a Dream for Apex Users
My Gen 2 can go like this for about 24-25 KMs But On Apex Its Doubt 
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The warp+ did not gave up at 6km I just drove that much.
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It will not give up for 6 KMs. But The Same It will not Cross 15+ KMs too 
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Let’s see…
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I think even with having a fan, the performance bottleneck wouldve been present. The improvement with having a fan wouldve been very minor that’s they decided to omit if (although I’m against that decision). Plus its peak summers right now which is probably like the worst case scenario. Rest of the year the scooter should do a lot better.
Even on my 450+ G3 (which does not have warp), riding at 90km/h constant for 10 mins disables AutoHold as the motor get hots, but never in the lifetime of the scooter I’ve experienced a power limit. (I’ve done 15km constant 90km/h on expressway and no power cut at all)
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Try riding gen2. I have series 1 which has no warp performance issues whatsoever. Wrap acceleration is always consistent unlike warp+ on Apex which can exhibit degradation depending on magic twist and hill hold use.
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most likely you the MCU is facing some kind of over-load kind of situation, and is holding back to protect the circuits, this issue seems only in Alchemist(2023) and later, @tarun any input
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The nonsense they said when they tested the apex for figures were so kiddish and 
. @srivatsabs24 reveal it here once more on the reasons
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They checked for that also when they pulled data from both vehicles but they couldn’t find any abnormalities. So maybe all these hill-hold ,costing regen and magic twist are to blame?
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Srivatsa asks Rakshith NM about the Call from Top Exes of Ather to him. And What they agreed 
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In my Gen3, during continues ride in Warp at top speed does cut off Autohold but not performance.
Fan doesn’t help in the bottleneck, but the recovery from the heat is quicker. If i slow down for 10 seconds recovery will be done, but in case of Apex the Autohold and performance will take its own sweet time to recover even i stop for sometime.
Regarding summer, yea let’s wait and see.
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Have they provided the data to you? is it an independent V-Box or their own system data?
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As far as i tested, Without Magic Twist and Coasting Regen we get some more time to ride without performance drop.
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It was not provided to me. Their own data logger was used.
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Did they atleast explain u why ur apex is acting that way ? That’s the least they could do na
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