Ather 450X Discussions

Yeah 450 is indeed a killer no doubt , It has indeed drawn everyone to think about EV as commuting solution, 450 is a VFM product it does provides what we want in terms of savings by running it for 3-4 years as a daily commuter vehicle.

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The 450 will be in production and will be available for those who have already pre-ordered in Chennai and Bangalore.

We will be offering the 450 to all the pre-order customers in the coming months.

The price of Ather 450X and the current on-road price of Ather 450 are not comparable because the Ather 450 is extremely underpriced at Rs.1.13 lacs on-road. We did this to introduce a premium product in a price-sensitive market when we launched. In fact, if we had continued with 450, we would have increased its price anyways. Considering the experience of Ather 450 users, we’re confident that the price of Ather 450X - a much superior product compared to the Ather 450, is justifiable for the value and experience it offers.

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Definitely. We’re working with partners for the exchange program and will announce a lot more details soon. Answered over here:

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With the 450, since the owners are our earliest customers who helped us along the journey, we had complimentary plans for the first year, some getting Ather One, and some getting Ather Service.

With the new subscription plans (99k + Plus/Pro performance packs), the monthly subscription fee comes bundled with Ather Charge (Offering connectivity, OTA updates, data storage and pipeline maintenance costs, and unlimited Ather Grid charging). If you’ve pre-ordered the collector’s edition, we’re also offering one year free servicing for your 450X.

We are also working on Ather One/Charge/Service/Connect equivalent plans for the 450X and will announce them soon. We realized there we confused you all with the pricing and didn’t want to complicate that with more numbers :smiley:

I’ve added more details comparing the Subscription plans and upfront pricing here:

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We could not announce everything at the event, but we did share a few more details over this weekend. Here’s the summary of it:

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Hey @joemon.kishor, we messed up the pricing announcement at the press launch, given the short time. I’ve put together the comparison between the subscription and upfront option here:

Happy to clarify if you need more information :slight_smile:

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@abhishek.balaji What is the future plan for ather grid system. Will we get fast chargers on highways? With current range being more than enough for city commute, fast chargers on highways will definitely help in intercity travel and road trips.

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We realize the price might not make sense to a lot of people, that’s where we’re hoping to convince you to take a test ride to experience the 450/450X.

For a long time, EVs represented a compromise in performance and the only justification to switch to an EV was cost savings.

However, that is no longer true. An electric vehicle like 450X represents a huge shift in performance, and the intelligence features that it offers is changing the game. 450X’s acceleration is hard to match for most scooters today - petrol or electric. The smart features enabled by connectivity and touchscreen dashboard aren’t available in any other vehicle out there. And the fast and super-fast charging available on 450X has in-built technology that is years ahead of all its rivals. So, fundamentally, 450X is worth switching to for the vastly superior product that it is.

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You’ll see a lot more Grid points come up over the next several months within city limits in Bangalore and Chennai.

Highways are not a part of the near term future plans since 450 and 450X are meant for the urban commute.

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So, Finally I canceled my pre-order of 450x(Pune) today with sad heart.
Call went smooth, executive asked me reason & I gave him the pretty obvious one. In further discussion he kindly offered loan option but I declined that. He further asked if I wish to transfer my pre-order to any of my close relative/friend but I declined that also, Sorry. Finally, he told me that you will get confirmation mail in 2 business days post which within 7 days money will be refunded to original account of transaction. Call ended.

I would like to thank you all members & Moderators of @Ather.Team for answering all my doubts through AMA in this wonderful platform.
I had shown interest on 450 back in June 2019 by reading news/reviews. Back in present when I rode 450 here in Pune I felt instantly in love with it & was desperately looking for to but it.
Although I Got chance to test drive two times:) Everyone liked 450 whenever i had just shown them just pic or features be it my friends/sister-in-law. That’s 450 for you, no one simply hates.

I understood from new moderators that 450x is can not be used for buying groceries or you should not compare with Activa/Chetak or any other scooter in the market. It is purely for hard enthusiasts(Apple phone) who can afford. So It made me to buy more affordable & average commuter scooter(Opppo phone).
I wish 450x could have more range rather than peak torque of 26Nm. Some more colors that were hinted in teaser trailers. And finally cost could have been in between 1.15 to 1.30

I really wish Ather a good success in coming future. You guys really build 450 a extra ordinary electric scooter & many many kudos to whole team. Good-bye!

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You can, if you want to. The monthly subscription includes Ather Charge, which gives you:

  • All data usage charges
  • Unlimited Public charging
  • Access to Future OTAs
  • Data storage and pipeline costs

If you want to avail other services equivalent to Ather One/Service, you can opt for those as well.

I’ve detailed what the subscription plans include here:

Sad to see you cancel your pre-order and it was wonderful getting your insights on our product, pricing and a lot of feedback. We hope we will be able to win you back with some of our future products :smiley:

As I had mentioned in one of the other responses in this thread,

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Hey @kpprasad.mech,

We realize the price might not make sense to everyone, with different requirements and budgets.

Currently in the market, EVs are compromised on performance and features compared to traditional ICE scooters, and we wanted to change that with the 450 and now 450X.

There is no intention to trap you into a subscription, but want to provide a pricing model where you don’t have to face the common worries of EVs - battery degradation and inconsistent performance. We are working on exit options from the subscription plans, similar to standard loans, where you can pay the residual value of the battery, depending on when you’re exiting from the plans.

We can’t match the price point of the current scooters available in the market, while making the business sustainable and making sure the scooters offer consistent performance.

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The prices displayed on the website are inclusive of subsidies. The cap of 1.5L is on the ex-Factory price, which the 450X meets. We’ll announce the exact subsidy amount and the on-road price soon, once we get regulatory stuff cleared out.

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The price of Ather 450X and the current on-road price of Ather 450 are not comparable because the Ather 450 is extremely underpriced at Rs.1.13 lacs on-road. We did this to introduce a premium product in a price-sensitive market when we launched. In fact, if we had continued with 450, we would have increased its price anyways. Considering the experience of Ather 450 users, we’re convinced that the price of Ather 450X - a much superior product compared to the Ather 450, is justifiable for the value and experience it offers.

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The 450 already has great specs and we wanted to keep that option open for consumers looking for the 450. It was not sustainable to sell the 450 at the current prices. We priced the 450 at 1.13L on road, to create a market and show consumers that it is possible to have a no-compromises EV 2 wheeler.

Given that, the 450X Plus also has a huge number of changes, such as upgraded battery chemistry, upgraded internal electronics and ofcourse the new dashboard. We wanted to make sure both options are available to consumers.

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We already confused everyone with the pricing, and had limited time at the press launch. We did share some more details this weekend about the collector’s edition.

We have zeroed in on the theme for the Collector’s Edition vehicle, which is ‘Inside Out’. We will reveal more details soon. Additionally, for our Collector’s Edition customers, one year of servicing is free, along with exclusive Ather merchandise.

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Talking about performance only revolving at around the additional torque that the 450X generates does not make much sense. We need good range as well. That’s what is performance.

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@abhishek.balaji Thanks for the reply. I have pre-ordered with billing address of a non serviceable city. If i decide to buy will I get same priority as orders of serviceable city as I will take delivery from Bengaluru?

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Also people who wants performance may not looking for ev and have many other options in this price point. EVs are mainly considered for cost saving rides, performance is second

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